[quote=@Mammalia] wait of all the things I mentioned, [i]this[/i] was the one you thought of before anything??? [/quote] It's the only thing that means anything! I don't know man-buts either, but swimming is so important! [quote=@Mammalia] easier said than done [/quote] I would say no, but I can't speak for you. I've spent my whole life in the water. My family and instructors when I was two said I was more comfortable underwater than above it.