[quote=@Kho] EH?! Didn't I say that is NOT the case? Those dead 2000 are 2000 from the actual Garakaian population gone. That battle saw the total human pop sink from 9000 to a good 5000 [/quote] In the collab chat for that battle, Rtron and I figured that the 4,000 were freemen and that there'd be tons of slaves. I don't recall you ever stating otherwise here or commenting on it in that chat. *shrug* If we're saying that those 2,000 were coutned in the 4,000, Garakai is even more thoroughly screwed. Just 1,000 guys are back at home with Aztoc :lol