[quote=@Rilla]then don't try it.[/quote] That seems a shame. If somebody's a bit of a newb but willing to learn (and seems to have a reasonable chance of attaining a given game's higher standard), I don't feel that they should be discouraged. [quote]Big rule: Don't try and get shit under my radar. If I catch you doing it, you're done. Mainly because I know how things generally should work, and I hate it when people try and circumvent things with loopholes and stuff. You get the general idea, don't try and be the guy that gets it, and tries to get around it, or bring it up to show that.. 'I know ways around this.'[/quote] I put these in the category of 'uncooperative'; players who seek to do what they want to do in spite of everybody else. I'm reminded of my unwritten rule that if somebody wants to challenge something in terms of content, they're more than welcome to put forward their case, but if I, as GM, say No, I expect that decision to be accepted and respected.