[quote=@Vordak] [@GreivousKhan] [@Melonhead] It largely depends on how thick the floor is. I do have doubt in the nether's ability to corrode stone so fast, as it seems to spread in form of flame. In that case, unless the floor has rather large cracks in it, it would take much more than a fraction of a second to penetrate far enough into the stone. But nevermind all of the above: this move looks quite out-of-character to me in the first place. While Khan may know of Melon's penchant for kicks and knee strikes, Tordor has absolutely no reason to suspect Judgment of such a thing. All Tordor knows, is that one of his opponents is a large behemoth clad in armor and wielding a greatsword - and that isn't a premise from which you could reliably infer a jump attack. On the contrary, Tordor can only expect him to never let his feet leave the ground, using the sword as a weapon instead, as even kicks are seldom advocated in swordfighting, not to mention anything that involves jumping. Heck, Melon even mentioned himself that a horizontal slash to the torso was possible instead of the knee strike, meaning that the prediction is borderline metagaming. The only way i can see Tordor moving the flame in time to get it underneath Judgments feet, where it would spend just a fraction of a second corroding the stone, is directing all of his attention away from Listia to catch the jump on pure reaction speed. [/quote] Well nether is purely a spiritual medium so it wouldn't need cracks. But the issue would be the time it would take so if you say it would take longer that's fine. Also onto the topic of his prediction being out of character, that's nonsense. The man is a armored giant, using his weight against him is both logical and predictable. Why would he need to know he was going to jump? That' doesn't really make allot of sense, if he didn't Tordor was prepared for that and the secondary effect was a back up plan. Metagming, is using outside character information you PC cannot know. Not accurately predicting how a character will react. It's not like Tordor is an idiot. He's over 400 years old having faced countless experiences. I'm not even sure how that is even a point to make to be honest, and seems extremely reaching really. That's like saying you can't plan two steps ahead in an arena bout, which defeats the entire point of T1. I had no idea, as a player, that melon was going to jump, therefore you baseless claim that I somehow read melons mind is to absurd. XD