"Ill will has little to do with it, though we know that they were not manipulated," Oswall mentioned in response to Meesei mentioning Harriet's alphas, "It is written in tradition. If we do not have a proper representative of those packs, they would be effectively gagged at this council." To the topic of Caleb's punishment Oswall leaned forward slightly, but winced and stopped before bending too far forward. Though now under fresh clothing, his wound was still causing him pain. Likely he was just trying to look strong and would do better with another day resting. Still, he paused for thought, and then his eyes moved up. "I have talked to Vera about this. While he was indeed lied to and manipulated, he will be punished." He breathed in slowly and gained a stony and serious expression, "The usual punishment for crimes as dire as attempted murder is either banishment or execution. However, there is one lawful leniency he may gain, independent of his connections to the leadership." Oswall glanced to Vera for a moment, "He is not yet an adult. He cannot be expected to hold the same responsibility of judgement. With that in mind, we have settled to give him five public lashes. It will mark him, but it is a mercy." Vera was mimicking Oswall's stony look at she looked out to the space behind Meesei. She seemed to breath shallowly. Evidently whatever protests she had were already spent upon Oswall earlier. "I will deliver the punishment myself," Oswall finished.