[quote=@Fallenreaper] Still, my instinct was screaming at it. Not to mention using only a few non original pcs and not listing actual ability example like what you stated doesn't give me an accurate image of the tiers. Part of the issue I have with tiers is they don't provide max or minimal stat deceptions to go off of for a player to ensure they aren't in the next tier. [/quote] The tier system was quite terrible to be honest. [url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/11548456/T1-Rules-and-Guidelines-for-the-Modern-Day-Role-Player#scribd]Modern day multi-way[/url] is a little better if by only a little. Something like Melons Fury character would be T6.(if just barely)