[quote=@MelonHead] Yeah, tier is a pain to work with, that's why we've gone with a more general system for this re-iteration and we're allowing people to balance fights themselves. Only tournament hosts have to work on balancing out more than two/four players, I pray for them. Metaphorically. [/quote] Yeah. It doesn't help the tiers don't take in account the storyline or role of the examples presented. Mains and some Nps for example grow unlike others, which influence their power level. Goku for example is one. At the start of the series, you know and can tell he's no match for Fresia. However, further along when he's taking on android 5 or Saga, he's likely to kick the original Fresia he battles back then to the curb easily. So the question is this: which example do you use? Had to rewrite this because I lost it when I pasted an old reply over it on my iPhone....T^T