[@MelonHead] they usually end up in 'Hey this is strong, why this strong, blahhhhh'. I love reading sheets, as it were, but I never really want to argue with people about them. Especially if someone else is accepting them.

[@Fallenreaper] they are still there, but now it's more IVs and EVs, and how many Geodudes do I need to kill to get my defense up by 3.