[quote=@Theodorable] It would be remiscnient of Sub-Sahara Africa in the 1820's-1830's. Like the Mamlukes. Obviously Serranthians and civilizations in the New World are aware that there exists the Old World and they have brought guns and germs with them, but they have neither the infrastructure nor ideology to advance their own culture to match it. [/quote] I was actually building my society in a way where they have not actually had a run-in with the Old World powers yet, though may have had second-hand interactions via Dedonus. Also, is there any particular reason as to why it is that they can't "westernize" as it were? Or is it a matter of this world's version of innate European superiority for "reasons"?