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Yeah, I sort of originally designed him (and Danko, his not-alfred) as a upper class thief with a moth motif. He and Robin get into a tough fight before Moth escapes, which is when Bette Kane truly falls in love with Robin (Moth was robbing the Kane's). There's more to it than that, but thats the cliffnotes version.
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Well i'm sure that I can think of something else! :P