[quote=@Spriggs27] 28 actually Yeah, but At least Ocelot was 4 games helped big boss, has the most style, and if they had an actual fight Ocelot may lose to the ninja, but he'd die with style. Also if you count it, in two and 4 he became Liquid and killed the cyborg ninja. Also he's the son of The Boss, the female one, so he's just badass by default, and when many others died from being cut from the Ninja, Ocelot lost an arm and still was able to do his job. [/quote] I think we need to wrap this up before we start overflowing. I'm pretty sure the others are sick of our ranting. Besides, I was merely trolling you for trolling me. For the record, there is no 'Badass by Default'. Badass is a title that must be earned.