[quote=Tyki] ((it's actually using jack's own trick against him :P(i'm thinking about the electric guy) and the remote for the button would have hit the building on it's side, preventing it from being pressed)) he simply summons another staff, it turns into another spear, not hindered by the limiters and jack already seeming to have a very specific limit on his power being set, preventing odin from adjusing it due to the complexity and the fact that he already appears to be exerting no power or life signature at all, seeming to simply not be there "you seem to think i only had one" he says simply, raising his only eyebrow, the other one being hidden by the bandage((and before you call bullshit, i say to leave odin out of it, both jacks are actually pretty equal in power and jack really doesn't put out any senseible presence)) [/quote] ((Jack sees the future. He made the button to be activated by you throwing it against a wall, and he already knew you'd use the trick and where you really were. Apparently, you didn't know his ability. Odin is controlled by jack, it's one of his weapons. It's like saying for you to leave your spear out of it. It would be silly and make little sense. However, I need to leave now, and have no time to reply.))