[quote=@Valiance] But my point is that if they are meant to be punished, then they will be. But it's not inherently humanity's job to punish each other. If God does it through us, then so be it. That's what your final verse is talking about. But you have to understand how imperfect our system is, how often people get punished by our system when they have genuinely done nothing to constitute the punishment. Our laws are in place to justify punishment, and it is far from perfect. In a way, it is our form of having people go out of their way to "deal justice." In reality, we can never tell these days from just looking at it if the punishment our system executes is truly a punishment from God or simply a misunderstanding caused by human imperfection and unfortunate circumstance. In short, what I am trying to say is that, on top of everything else that I have said, we cannot reliably consider our own government or others to be consistently dealing with things the way God wants 100% of the time. I hope I articulated this little bit well enough, I had a hard time putting it into words. [/quote] That... Is, actually, a really good point. Our government is growing increasingly amoral. But what I don't think we should do is get rid of the laws that are already there, because they can still be used by God. God directs the whole world so that He might give each person all the chances that He can give, and we can reasonably assume that the laws already in place are used by God as punishment. And when someone is unfairly punished, God promises to provide for them. If we get rid of the laws, then we remove an avenue used by God (although it's not like that hinders Him). This point was significantly harder to articulate than my previous points, and I'm not sure if I got it out right, but I'm going to be leaving for discipleship, so I won't be able to post any more today. This was good, though. =D