[quote=@LeeRoy] I've posted, but going from expecting to land on top of someone (And in fact, not expecting anything OTHER than landing on top of them. Even going as far to prepare for the coming entanglement on the ground.) to not landing on top of that person doesn't put you in any sort of position to catch yourself. Just saying. [/quote] Well my posts were made on the assumption of Shin being dragged towards Metz and Shin coming forward to punch him respectfully. I failed to see how it made sense for Shin to try what's essentially a judo throw after already negating a lot of Metz momentum and taking the knife to the shoulder. Ultimately the only scenario that then made sense was for Metz momentum to be spent otherwise there was really no logical way Shin could avoid being tackled to the ground. The knife in the shoulder already dictated he had left it too late to super dodge. So I worked with the scenario you wrote.