[@White Feather] I agree blood passes on, and I guess I gotta use more examples to get you to understand something. Let's say this, there is a child with a parent that abuses them and over time even tries to kill or get rid of the child, wouldn't you hate the parent ? But the child grows up to be possibly the best humanitarian on the planet, would you hate them ? Let's use another example, Child grows up with a nice family possibly the best people you could ever meet, but the child then grows up to be a shit head or just a psychopath, do you hate the parents for their shit head kid ? or do you hate the kid. Or what if a child was abused by their parents and grown up to be a timid person who can't talk to others or couldn't have a proper conversation with someone because of their parents, would you hate them ? What I'm trying to tell you is Don't hate another person's character because they are related to another person, hate the character that caused you to hate them, it would be like me liking DSP when he's not playing a game, but then turning around and hating him for playing my favorite game, and Windel I didn't mean to bring up DSP it's just another vid of him playing some old game got into my inbox again. I don't care what kind of beef you have with Alice, I know you don't like her, but don't have your char come at Doughnut without proper reasoning.