[quote=@MelonHead] What I'm saying is that the rock itself isn't magical, it's actual rock from the ground being moved by magic. Sort of like how you couldn't just make all the shards of rock dissapear just because they'd been given momentum by a lightning bolt. It's the inherent weakness in 'magic immune' characters and the like, at least the way I see it. Magic can be used directly, or it can be used indirectly, for example by throwing a boulder at someone. You can't be immune to a boulder being thrown at you, and once the magic has transferred into momentum it's not magical in nature anymore. Which essentially makes the Rock Pillar immune to your magic cutting effect once activated. Metz is somewhat unhinged, he talks to himself a lot, one of the side effects of Black Mana use. [/quote] Well yes, what I was saying was the threads of magic is cut away from the effects history. If the magic never happened the conjuration or evocation never occurred. Thus the paradox that causes it to collapse. But his Earth Pillar won't have that to worry about, he did see the first match so he won't be going anywhere near it. [quote=@MelonHead] Hmm, might have to sleep on this one. Couple things though. 1. What affect is gravity having? Presumably it's doubling the exertion of Flash-Point, as it's usually carried out without training weights and the gravity of the world is the equivalent of your character having his weights. 2. How did he get in the air using Flash-Point? Presumably the idea is that he can run really fast, not really sure how this translates to ending up thirteen feet in the air unless he can also jump with immense force, which leaves the question of how he isn't flying into the stratosphere. I can buy Flash-Point working on the ground, sort of, but in the air it seems dubious that he can cancel all that momentum. It might as well be a teleportation spell at that point, which is a pretty high tier power for this level. 3. You mentioned the sword was 'spinning' towards Metz, presumably that means its not hitting him hilt first? What part of the blade would be facing towards him if he remained stock still? Also, as the blades were being kept in the air by some sort of spinning cog thing I don't claim to understand, now that two have left wouldn't the remaining two hit the ground? Can't remember what happened to them. I'll have a reply tomorrow, but I would like an answer to question 2 and 3, question 1 is ultimately your decision much like me deciding when Metz has ran out of Mana, but Flash Point is a potentially devastating skill, I'd at least like to know if it has any discernible limits, much like Metz being unable to maintain that many spells. [/quote] 1. His weights are equivalent to three times gravity (probably more since each weight is almost half his body weight). So they require more energy here so he uses it sparingly. 2. He sheds all the extra momentum into his Swords, which is part of the reason why he can only flash point to them. It's how he can stop from march speeds at a drop of a hat. As long as he has a clear path he can reach a spot. Think of it as pseudo teleportation with allot of requirements. He basically just jumped and caught it. 3. He hit it and aimed it in such a way it would hit him blade first if he did not move from his standing position now. And yes the first sword pair hit the ground, two are spinning like a wheel on either side of him.