[quote=@Tryker2710] I figure I'll mention that Liliana Vess was born over a hundred years before most of the other planeswalkers we'd know today because she was a planeswalker pretending and did that whole deal with demons thing and I think it'd be much easier on everybody if we could just exist in a time with the planeswalkers we have now rather than having to study the multiverse of old. But it's up to you. [/quote] Now, I have a true timeline placement. I think this should happen around 4608 AR either shortly before or shortly after Sorin tells Ugin about the release of the Eldrazi/discovers that Ugin is long dead (Timeline split cuz of Takir.)