[quote=Etcetera] I don't agree; I think that wrong is just wrong. Wrong is zero if good is one; only the lack of good. Sure, it may seem worse, but to me, it's just pure evil, honestly. That's why I say I wouldn't do something wrong to do something right; I'd find another way. For example, I wouldn't lie to help someone, but I can manipulate words and cause misdirection. [/quote] I can agree to disagree here without much fuss.