[quote=@whizzball1] But political debates are much less interesting than scholarly debates. The latter actually gets somewhere. =P Anybody can debate politics, but when it comes to intellectual matters, you actually have to do your unbiased research and really think about your position. (Hardly anybody ever actually does unbiased research or think about their position in politics.) [/quote] I beg to differ, but am so mentally fatigued right now that I won't jump into the fray myself.