[quote=@Tracyarmav] so do we still post secret alliances? [/quote] No, secret alliances, if specifically made secret, do not have to be posted. If you want your alliance to be public knowledge, as either a way to deter others from declaring war on you or just because you feel like it would be easier you may also do that. Also, 12 people, holy crap, that seems like an above average amount for an Rp on the nation section here.