[quote=@Caits] I always hear my lower back. Ice never works for me. And the muscle relaxers are just awesome [/quote] I've trying to train myself to squat whenever I have to pick something up. Working with kids, everything is so close to the ground so I have to do a lot of bending over to pick up shit. That's really awful for my back so I've been attempting to squat with everything I do involving being close to the floor.