[@Lugubrious] Can't really say much here without being biased now can I? That said, I do think Kray's original intention was again to simply offer up constructive criticism to allow for more clear standards going forwards, as the definition of what a villain was supposed to be a was a little unclear. I don't think he was asking for a re-tally or anything else of the sort, merely that going forward definitions and stuff can be clear. [s]Asking for definitions, god you can tell we're debaters. Ay Kray?[/s]