I'm probably going to have to turn off sigs. [quote=@DarkwolfX37] You have to play the game willingly. You keep acting as if you automatically play it. If you don't choose to play then you don't have to follow it's rules. Again, spec against it. [/quote] Not playing the game is death. You're being more specific; I'm referring to the game of life. [quote=@DarkwolfX37] Was seth introduced before or after the meeting? [/quote] Before.