I personally think a few distinctions need to be made. Are we talking about [b]the people[/b] with those sexual orientations, [b]the actions[/b] of those who identify with either orientation or [b]the ideas[/b] that are the orientations? Also, once that distinguishment is made, in what meaning of the word are we using "discrimination" (and the related words)? What do we mean when we use it? Are we comparing the items and saying one is better than the other? Are we simply saying they are different but equal? Perhaps the word is even being used in another meaning? Finally, once those two distinctions are made, what is really being debated here, using the prior distinctions to figure this out? As an outside observer, I'm confused over where some of the civil debate has headed, so I'm asking for these distinctions for my sake and the debate's sake.