[quote=@Nimda] Not in the areas we differ. I have to establish it in one area, you establish something else in another. [/quote] I don't follow. A long time ago you set up things within it, and afterwords I set up the surrounding and beyond it. I built a framework that for all intents and purposes should be usable to build anything. Where is the contention that isn't from trying to break that framework for X reason.