[quote=@Xeiyenreisha] I do not run Machine decks without Power Bond or Limiter Removal, but I understand what you are saying. All other cards I can part with but those two are the forefront and foundations of my Machine based decks. Besides there are turn the table Trap Cards like Magic Cylinders that can be used to defeat over aggressive people with. I see no particular problem with Limiter Removal. You also have Gravity Bind and Level Limit Area A which can also screw you since you have to destroy all Machine-Type monsters effected by it at the end of your turn. Personally, I do not have a particular problem with the card since there are ways to safeguard yourself against it. [/quote] Magic Cylinder? Since when can you activate Magic Cylinder during Damage step? Or Gravity Bind? or Level Limit Area A (which does nothing). I assume two things of course: 1) You meant level Limit Area B which restricts Levels 4+ to defence mode., but is a continuous spell card and ergo cannot be activated as a "gotcha" on the opponent's turn. Although neither cards are effective against XYZ Monsters as they have ranks not levels. 2) The player using Limiter Removal is using it smartly as a quick-play which can be played during damage step, that is, not activating it when Gravity bind is face up on the field, nor when Level Limit Area B is on the field, and is activating it NOT during the attack declaration of the battle phase, but rather the Damage Step at which the opponent cannot negate the attack or prevent it from happening, and must use cards like Forbidden Lance or counter traps to negate the spell itself, at which, negates the destruction effect at EP, leaving you with a still decent beatstick on the field. Hence your 3 given solutions have just fallen out of the equation due to game mechanics. Unless you were unfamiliar with how the BP works, specifically regarding the Damage Step and its Damage Calc substep, I almost feel insulted that you offered these 3 solutions when you claim you ALWAYS play with Limiter Removal in machine decks :I