[quote=@Byrd Man] Well I'm 27 and I see the darkness encroaching! [/quote] Woo! I'm not the oldest anymore! [quote=@Chapatrap] Do people just start feeling really old and cynical when they turn 20? I'm 17 and feel young as a spring chicken. [/quote] You just need to get far enough to know that you know you're fucked no matter what you do, then you'll feel old.