[quote=@agentmanatee] I just can't wait to start showing Tyget's planw... cause they aren't as si please as they seem right now ;), also OTHER than wealth what are the westerlands known for? [/quote] They're known for extremely skilled armorers and craftsmen. The Westerlands are highly resource rich (not just the gold of Lannisters- there's other mines). The Westerlands were also known, while having smallers numbers, having superior trained troops to the rest of the Seven Kingdoms, with their only rivals (in military matters) being the North. They were sort of stupidly op when you think about it. Them and the Tyrells North's benefits were military mindset, a huge freaking expanse, and vast untapped naturally resources. Downside: less dense population, frigid winter, a stupid sense of honor, and a tendency to lose their heads over things. Vale: HEAVY Armored Knights and calvary, little in the way of light militia. Natural defensible terrain, and decent port cities. Problems: Remnants of the First Men being causing constant unrest as the hilltribes, raiding villages and traders. VERY little farmland.