[quote=@duck55223] This, so much this. Was the oppression of women in the past bad? Yes. Was feminism as a movement necessary to correct those injustices? Yes. Should their be equality between the sexes? Yes. The only thing that modern feminism is about is putting women above men. I see feminists warping data to put out bullshit myths like the pay gap or the 1 in 5 women will get raped on college campuses. They also love to push out all of the problems women face in modern society, and while women still face problems, they outright ignore all of the problems that men face. [/quote] Ehh, I would be careful assuming that tumblr slacktivism and university freshman liberals [i]are[/i] modern feminism. The freshmen won't vote, and will eventually grow up, and the grand majority will even out as they get older. Sure, there are those liberal-arts professors who stir the pot because they've been in academia way too long, but those people have always been there and have always been pulling the same silly shit, they are just in the news all the time now because a few keen marketing guys figured out how lucrative an article with a rage-click inducing title is. As for the small minority that is tumlbr slacktivists, they are either really young, socially maladjusted, or have legitimate issues that cause them to be pulled into that goofy shit. They are the internet's boogeymen, but that is about it. Modern feminism, the real thing that shouldn't be discounted, is women fighting for gender equality within cultures that haven't modernized with the rest of the west, or women entering fields that are still hitherto boy's clubs. It is still there, though it isn't as visceral as old-school feminism (hence immature types trying to pick fights over nothing because they thing politics is somehow about the glory). Nothing is ever perfect, and everything can be improved upon. As for the problems that men face, they are totally there, but a real movement hasn't coalesced yet. It doesn't help that, except perhaps for the uneven way the legal system treats fathers when dealing with shit like child support and custody (those horror stories make me glad I only put my dick in other people's drinks rather than other people), most other issues faced by men are perpetuated by the idea of masculinity. I can't help but think of a conversation I overheard a few years ago in a public bathroom where two guys where [i]bragging[/i] about all the times they had been raped by women (holy shit was that a conversation), or about how quick everybody is to suggest prison rape as a form of justice. It is absolutely true that men face issues, but there just doesn't seem to be an active general movement to face those issues equal to the size of Feminism. Feminism only happened when enough women decided to push for it. And I don't think it helps that modern "Men's Rights" is nothing of the sort, and all the MRA I have ever seen spend their time just trying to steal the spotlight in discussions about specific women's issues. If you want to fix prison rape, start a campaign to educate the public and encourage victims to speak up, don't spend all your time whining in the comments of articles about sexual violence against women. The former, if you are good at this sort of thing, will get you respect, except for those aforementioned SJW boogeymen that nobody really respects anyway.