[quote=@Oblivion666] I mean to be fair. Zephyr is a bad choice of an example. He might have used god takeover, but only because Harrys defense against his other takeovers was top notch. That and I think Zephyr hit Harry once XD [/quote] Yes and in sure Shujin had no intentions of seriously hurting Sasha, but there we go. And I'm sure Mayt had no intentions of killing the people in Edolas, but there we go. It happened. Does that mean it's all someone else's fault?