Yes I built Ben's deck to be based completely around the noble knights because that's what they worked best on but i didn't put in galvachad, i didn't put in artorgius, i didn't put in the field card, and i didn't put in eachter, avalon (you know banish five knights and pop the entire field), and i completely neglected to put in laudsallyn's noble arms (it's spelling evades me and ammo said to remove it so i did). I made a build based around the king himself. I could put in lightstray grepher, dawn knight, and a few other cards but all those do is put more noble knights in my grave or let my mill more of those cards in to my graveyard. Or you know Honest. Honest solves a lot of problems. While I admit that Ben's deck is stronger than some decks, it also heavily relies on drawing the right cards. Also I don't intend to play Ben as a power player. He brought out Artorgius in his first match up only because he had no other way out of the situation at hand. If he could've fought Angelo with him or high laudsallyn he would've. I don't intend to be spamming the hell out of Ben's cards unless he feels he has to. I just played a couple test rounds on yugioh pro against the ai and due to the ai for some reason constantly getting stupidly good hands that i would never get he wrecked Andre's deck rather easily which more than likely won't end up happening here due to my own player put constraints. Likewise Noble Knights Aren't spellbooks. I can't just spam the hell out of them. the most i get out with my build is noble knight borz, meduraut, and gawayn (that's three cards from my hand right there (medraut, gawayn, a noble arms) and one removed from my deck) two of which are in defense mode with piss defense unless i got destiny on gawayn or borz or the queen on borz. The King Artorgius is the power monster here and he gets blown to hell if he doesn't have his arms protecting him. Unlike spellbooks skill drain murders any chance i have of mounting any sort of strategy unless i get gawayn in and special summon a level 4 and have a noble arms, i can get trap holed, i can get my monsters banished or even my arms banished. Spell books you play the cards and you don't need to worry about them unless they somehow got horus out. In fact horus fucks me pretty hard too. Likewise my monster can be tribute summoned. It's when Artorgius comes out with his giant fist and punches you in the face is when you need to worry about things. If things have gone completely right that means he has a bunch of equips and can't be destroyed or targeted like my first duel. If things go horribly wrong you got a 2(2/0)00 beater who can't pop anything in the case of the level four or is only good for holding your ground for a turn with two noble arms at his disposal. Lava Golemn, level 5-8 with monarchs stormforth, destiny hero plasma (without king having excaliburn), and volcanic queen can completely circumvent artorgius and just remove him as a none factor and if there are no other noble knights i just spent a good chunk of my deck and strategy pulling out a field with little to no defense and i need to get lucky and either pull last chapter or another medraut and hope i have a queen in my grave to bring out noble knight level 4. Likewise he can be stepped on. U.A's are a perfect example of that. Stadium, midfielder, U.A Dreadnaught dunker, U.A Power Jersey 4000 atk, punch artorgius in the face, blow up his excaliburn, swap out for perfect ace, discard card next turn if he tries to activate his effect. If you're even luckier use U.A Penalty Box to just remove him from play for two turns burying all of the noble arms and he comes back without material or noble arms.