[b]@Gwazi:[/b] Stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it~ Just stop. You're never going to convince ActRaiser. He sincerely believes what he is saying is fact--now regardless of whether it is or isn't--that is seriously what he believes to be absolutely true beyond a shadow of a doubt. You could no more convince him not to believe that than he could convince you to believe in God. Okay? Okay. Also, cut the passive aggressive crap. It's funny when Thunderf00t does it because he targets blatant idiots who intentionally try to destroy science. Shy and ActRaiser, while I cannot comment on personally knowing their intellectual capacity, I sincerely doubt have any desire to destroy the modern concept of science and simply hold differing beliefs to yours. Whether you consider those right or wrong is irrelevant. This is an argument about philosophy and theology and in these fields it's very, VERY DAMN HARD to declare one thing right and another wrong. So seriously. Cut the crap. I know you can be better than this. Be an intellectual not a... Podium of tired arguments that nobody gives a shit about anymore. [b]@ActRaiser:[/b] And -you-... Oh where do I start with you. ... Ah actually they're mostly just philosophical differences. Okay, don't really got much to say other than that I disagree with you.