damn this shit is hard to parse on NewGuild. Alright, hang on.

[quote=Magic Magnum]So basically this is the "When Jesus died the Old Testament became irrelevant" argument?[/quote]

It's about as basic as I can make it in its current writing. Sorry. Reducing and summarizing invariably results in loss of meaning. I said what I said, I meant what I meant; same is true of the Bible. Now I'm sure you've got many canned responses for "What to say when Christians say the old testament doesn't matter;" most debatheists have a compendium of things they can say. As you'll note from the references I provided, that's not the argument. 

[quote]If so, the Bible never seemed to outright say, 'Ignore the past Bible". More that they gave a summary, as I quote "Teacher, which is the commandment in the Law?". Not how it's not only, but great. Also, the 10 Commandments themselves basically have always amounted to "Worship Him" and "Don't be a dick". But if you looked into the rest of the Bible there's clear support of things such as rape, slavery, sexism etc.[/quote]

whoa whoah whoah. Not rape. Let's be firm on that point. Slavery existed, yes, as it did in every society (the Hebrew people were themselves slaves, and descendants of slaves, and found themselves enslaved periodically throughout the course of the scripture). Slaves of Israel were treated pretty well, including codified release and freedom (you've probably heard of the 'year of jubilee' if you've read up on the subject), and the poor (for instance, recently-freed slaves) were provided for under Abrahamic law (research 'gleaning' if you're interested). As for the sexism, well, that's a debate. Like I said before, we've been changing and evolving and growing ever since we were made, and the circumstances have changed. Fortunately the 'New Covenant' you read about is not like the old; it's not 'follow these rules and you will be pure,' it's 'follow Jesus and you will be forgiven.' 

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Science is entirely based on finding the truth, with no assumptions made.If they find something disproving a theory they will keep researching to understand it and adapt their theories.So they could be wrong (they've been wrong plenty of times in history) but they adapt, they don't bring a pre-existing claim like God which must always stay true despite what is shown against it.But in terms of a Religion like Christianity, there's a different element. The Bible. The Bible is by all intents and purposes Christianity. Everything God said, wants of people and Christians are expected to follow in in there.[/quote]
Is that your 'scientific' opinion? Have you made no assumptions, have you adapted your theories, have you abandoned your pre-existing claims? 

[quote]If your intent is to have me think Christianity is something separate from what the Bible says, you'll first need to explain why the Bible is not relevant to the Religion. And if you do that, you would then need to tell me what exactly it is Christianity does stand on.Because without the Bible they have seemingly nothing to base their beliefs on in my opinion.[/quote]
I never said 'THE BIBLE ISN'T RELEVANT TO THE RELIGION.' In fact I gave you a specific verse quite to the contrary. So you can see why I'm a bit flippant on that last quote, and on this one -- if you're claiming (as you should) that science and reason are the only ways to approach the truth then why, with Christianity, do you instead rely on your prejudice (and your google, if you're holding to the stereotype)? Just as experiments need to be done under control, with honest and scrupulous observation, so must the Bible be read in good faith. [url=http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Mt13.10-17]If not, you'll miss the point entirely.[/url]

[quote]Note that all your points on Jesus's teaching's were also Bible quotes.If that isn't your intent and I've misunderstood I apologize in advance for the mis-reading on my part.Also I feel the need to note, being an atheist I am not coming at this from the point of "God is real, he actually wrote this. So let's see what he really meant".I am coming at this from a "I believe the Bible was made by man, and was a book valued as God's word. As a result no one dared remove anything since it would be blasphemy, and therefore conflictions, prejeduice etc. runs rampant".[/quote]
Where we come from is always going to be an aspect of where we are. Hopefully I've cleared up the misunderstanding, and no harm done.

[quote]And I have also ran into the Christian's who would in fact argue "The Bible is irrelevant, it was made my man".But that like said earlier leaves the hole to fill of "What is Christianity based on?".So in other word's I'm open to learning more on the topic.But I've highlighted the main issues I have with Christianity and the Bible beforehand that needs to be addressed before I accept any claim that the Religion is not what the Bible says it is
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I met a Christian once who argued that rock and roll was satan worship (OKAY, MORE THAN ONCE). We've got some loonies, that's for damn sure. Anyway being open is cool, I'll tell you what I can, we can talk at length and have fun. [url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7:7]The people who look for the truth are the ones who find it[/url].