[@Cruallassar] One the first point: Drawing the bow protects your chin, not your face. I've not once mentioned it hitting Crual's face, I've just been going on and on about how the rocks would strike his chin. I already acknowledged that Crual's left side was facing the attack, his chin and bow and arm are still vulnerable. On the second point: You said that crual materialized all ready to fire. So naturally that would be exactly when he gets hit, thus ruining said firing and commencing the clobberfest. Or the boomfest, taking into account the explosive arrow. I know you don't think the monster has good timing, but it does. It is a monster with lots of patience, lots of brains, and a fuck ton of reflexes. Right now both characters are in a life or death coin flip, but the big deciding factor is how Shash, so to speak, rigged the game. It planned everything as it went along, and Crual did what it wanted him to do. He fell into its trap in the position and place it expected him to be, and its all lined up just how it had wanted. This is the most practical chance that any pure melee fighter could possibly have to defeat Crual, all things considered. It's pretty much perfect. One the third: Even if they were half the size of a softball, that's still a very nasty thing to get clocked by. Let's say that, for arguments sake, they are far smaller than softballs. The size of golf balls, perhaps. If a big fella tied a three foot cord around a golf ball and whacked you in the head, it would fuck you up. Now imagine that golf ball is made of rock. And there are multiple rocks, each one tied to a long rope. That rope is being swung by the twelve foot long tail of a five-hundred pound elder horror that is indeed crazy fast and outrageously strong. And if someone ten times stronger than you who has the same speed swings a weapon, it /will/ hit much, much harder. They have superior follow through, and that's not even accounting for weight, or if they are a monster or not. Lastly: I'm not trying to make a case that Crual sucks at archery. I'm saying that to make a point. You just got finished saying that you don't doubt Shash's physical power but his weapon is what ruins the gig, and then right after that you do a face/heel and say that what truly matters is the person wielding the weapon. It may be a crude weapon, but is a weapon nonetheless and one that I say the monster can use with the utmost proficiency. For emphasis... [i]"[b][color=ed1c24]I don't question your monster's physical ability...I question that of the tool it uses[/color][/b], which is an adapted one from my character, with pieces of the neutral environment thrown in." [/i] [i]"And finally...you also wouldn't have a case in saying he sucks at archery, because there is no such thing as a bow that requires a certain amount of time to draw. Again, [color=ed1c24][b]what matters is the person wielding it[/b][/color]."[/i] Now that is a real contradiction.