[@PerseusArchean] Alright, ok, I see what you're getting at. Thanks for letting me know. Hnnnnnnnnnn... Paging through Wikipedia, though, I can't find any other deity that's closely enough associated with actual lies (rather than trickery) that's nearly interesting enough to make Sais work. I can't base anything like their character purely on Eris or Discordia, partially because they only contribute a relatively small part of the detail in the first place, partly because they lack depth, and partly because I'm not actually versed in Discordian literature- I haven't even read the Illuminatus trilogy. So without Lucifer the character collapses, and if I tried to make a custom deity to fill the void they'd end up being just a living loophole to try and preserve the character that's in place rather than something that can catch interest of its own accord. So seeing as that my only real interest was based on the mechanic of the characters I could play, I don't think I'll be sticking around. Good luck, nerdballs. Make sure to fuck up the mortal plane good and proper for me. Let the Lord of Chaos rule.