I'm tired of coming up with more and more good arguments and nitpicking words and whatnot, so I'm just going to say that in most of those first points there, you obviously didn't read my posts well enough to tell what I did...(for example, he didn't actually dodge the shadow attack, he used your wing as a shield, then no one bothered to pay any additional attention to it after that)...or are trying to make points that are ridiculous in some of them, (such as that arrow detonation if the shafts are struck hard enough...the shafts would break before that happened.) or aren't paying attention to reality, (That blink reflex is in fact a reflex unless your reflexes aren't very good. That is why I suddenly put my hand up to someone's face and they blink. So the fact that everyone can do it makes perfect sense.) or on certain points, might actually have a point. I find your accusation that Cruallassar is overpowered because he can just blink in and out of reality shooting his prenocked and drawn bow ludicrous, because I SPECIFICALLY said, [i]"I've been trying to keep him from using his ethereal shift as a "stay in ethereal form releasing arrows from wherever faster than you can possibly do anything to him". Otherwise there is no way this attack would hit, with a 10X speed boost he would only need to be there for the bare minimum amount of time to release the arrow, and he can be gone before it even finishes leaving the bow...way out of even Shashous's ability to hit him in, prediction or not. But as I said...he isn't doing that."[/i] It's YOU who wanted me to materialize fully ready to fire. But beyond that, this is basically a battle of I find your character's stated abilities to be insufficient for the utterly super....well, I can't really say superhuman, because neither of us are human, and I can't say supernatural because both of us are, but super something...feat of predicting to the very inch the precise location and position of a person he can barely see, which in and of itself is an illogical position made reality only by the fact that YOU get to say where I am because I failed to specify with sufficient clarity. Now of course I can't say what you can or can't do, because he is your character, so I haven't been. But it seems to me to be one HELL of a stretch, even farther beyond that of your being able to "see" me without eyes because your senses are good enough to pick up the difference in the ambient temperature of the air due to the darkness of the shadows around me in ethereal form...at night. Not to mention the impossibility of a small shard of rock being able to knock a person unconscious by hitting them on the chin, just because the person who snapped the whip to which the rock is attached happens to be very strong. You will have noted by now that I haven't addressed most of your points directly. You will also note that I have finally devolved my posts into something vaguely resembling the aggression inherent in your last three or four posts, as opposed to trying to maintain my critically professional approach. This is because I would have to agree that this does seem to be am impasse. I can't do basically what you did because you will say that I am godmodding your character, and yet it appears to me that that is exactly what you are doing. Therefore, I would ask for a few neutral and independent observers to please give their two cents worth here. I'll see if I can find any of my own. I would also ask if someone could PLEASE either give me or come up with SOME kind of CONCRETE definition of the power levels of characters? If there isn't one then I would be more than happy to just come up with it myself, because the need is definitely there.