[quote=@Archmage MC] Sadly since I'm excluding the entire DCAU from my view on DC (Because I think that was good, and it had a good well written version of Superman up until the very end.) Static, Teen Titans, Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, JL, JLU are all removed. This leaves very little 'good' stuff for DC. Heck, most of the good villains got their personalities and the like out of DCAU, and without DCAU, Harley wouldn't even be a thing. Whoa... Did Deadpool actually join the Avengers? I'm surprised they let him join, considering how murder-y he is. That wont translate him very well to any animated stuff. I'll give a short list of what Toonforce entails then. And of course it would need to be tweaked for newbis. [b]Ultimate Regeneration[/b] (with minor limb manipulation after severance, no blood, and able to recover from supernatural forces.) [b]Super Strength[/b] [b]Toon Physics[/b] (Wayyyyy too long to list all the nuances, but look at a Looney toon or Tom and Jerry cartoon and you get a good jist of them.) [b]Rule Negation[/b] (Hard to explain and compounds on toon Physics/super strength. Basically if a toon is unaware of the rules around an item or place as to who and who can't interact with it, they can interact with it just fine until they learn about and are shown said rule, in which case they now follow the rules around said item or place, which includes biometrics, if the toon can't see that it is a biometric lock. Example, a toon can pick up Moljnir, until they are proven that no one but Thor should be able to pick it up, in which case they can't pick it up anymore unless they completely mistake Moljnir for something else later down the line. Locked doors and windows are the only exception to this rule.) [b]Pocket Space[/b] [b]Portable Hole[/b] (Best example, Peacock from Skullgirls, if you wanna know how it works. Except entrance hole can be from anywhere, not just solid ground. I can't remember a good tex avery cartoon where they used this, and I think this is more of a Disney thing, at which my memory of old disney cartoons is vapor at best. Basically think a more cartoon-y deadpool, which Deadpool is more or less a cartoon already tbh, except he bleeds. Only extra ability I'd add that doesn't fit under toonforce but can be made to make it seem like it fits would be an energy leech/reality leech ability that would make Superman useless but not hurt anyone else due to completely stopping Superman from gaining any energy. One eye beam and hes out of energy, meaning he just dies, while everyone else doesn't use NEARLY as much energy as Superman does or uses it from some outside source like a ring. EDIT: Yeah, Mask is also a good example, true. Actually the mask guy has all of the above, plus Pocket Space allows ANY object to be pulled out at will, and I'd make Pocket Space to make non-stored objects random like from an ACME crate. Which drastically increases offensive power if we use the mask compared to mine. Course with the Mask one, the character could just force feed Superman Kryptonite whenever they wanted, which would remove the need for the energy leech altogether. Actually if your fine with the Mask, then you have a general overview of how the character is. Just with more of a 'Sans' attitude. If you haven't played Undertale, you should. [/quote] Do you only know superheroes through expanded media, tv shows, and movies? If so you're missing probably 90% of what's out there. Geoff Johns wrote a lot of the better comics for DC the last two decades, and even wrote a few episodes of JLU. The Flash [with Wally as the star], JSA, Hawkman, Aquaman, and GL for about ten years, and even Barry Allen/Flash after he brought him back in Flash: Rebirth. You take away all the movies and cartoons what does Marvel have? Currently a patchwork universe where Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, and Thor don't star in their own books, Wolverine's dead, about eight to ten Spider-Men and Women running around NYC, and the Inhumans of all characters have something like six related spin-off titles. None of their characters' personalities translated from film to comics for more than a year and eventually the characters became boring to the point they couldn't sell comics even with top creators attached. When you say 'most of their good villains' who exactly are you describing? Geoff Johns wrote the hell out of the Flash's rogues, Hawkman always had a decent gallery, Batman and Superman have always had the best rogues and that made up probably 75% of what was in the DCAU, and any fan of Green Lantern should know all the threats he faces are pretty fantastic nowadays. There's also the villains operating as the Suicide Squad. Aside from Spiderman's villains and the occasional X villain, what does Marvel have? You telling me Baron Blood and Molecule Man are better villains than Solomon Grundy and Mirror Master? LOL! __________________________ On to the actual powers listed: [b]Ultimate Regeneration[/b] I'm okay with this, but anything supernatural kinda has a trump card against everything else, including Superman. [b]Super Strength[/b] Right now we've got enough characters with heightened strength, so this one would have to go. [b]Toon Physics[/b] If it's too much to describe... then it's too much. Ultimate Regeneration already covers most of what you'd need here. [b]Rule Negation[/b] Again, if it's hard to explain then it shouldn't even be listed. You want your guy to successfully walk off a building and on air until he looks down only to fall and pick himself back up again... that would kinda fall in the Regeneration power set. We don't need comic relief as much as we need an actual superhero or two. If your guy doesn't have to follow the rules there'd be no point in having them. No character should have that kinda power outside of a GM. [b]Pocket Space[/b] I can live with the guy pulling random shit out of his pockets. [b]Portable Hole[/b] I'm gonna assume with this you just mean black teleportation holes. IDK why that's hard to describe LOL. This I can also live with. [b]Energy Leech?[/b] Your guy has enough powers even with the neutered power set, this just makes 'too much' look like an understatement. If you can live with what I've recommended then by all means work on a Character Sheet. Still, I'd tie him to the 5th dimensional imps like Bat-Mite, or a genie from another dimension like the Thunderbolt of Jakeem and Johnny. ~KL~