[quote=@Leidenschaft] Think of how hard it is to control 90,000 people. I give Ottomans an A for Effort in trying to take over Christendom, but their execution was lacking. [/quote] It wasn't the Ottomans, really - the guy had strict orders not to do wacky shit like that, and he doesn't care about the Sultan's orders and goes attacking Vienna anyway, the absolute madman. More like a solo endeavor. But hey, I guess that's what 120 years of corruption leaking out of every orifice will do to an Empire.