[quote=@darkwolf687] Ugh, the Troubles. "Loyalists", marauding around Northern Ireland and murdering people. Then mirror it and you have the IRA, blowing innocent people up... What a lamentable waste of human life, naturally the inevitable result of tribalist chest thumping. But that's nationalism for you; It's primitive, it's regressive and with some luck that nonsense won't be coming back to these islands ever again. [/quote] Sounds like the secessionists in the southern US, just less delusional. And I mean it when I say delusional; even the basic idea of states splitting from the union is a very dangerous thing for all parties in the modern world.