[quote=@Xeiyenreisha] I remember using that card on PSP Yugioh games and it was always a pain in the ass to use effect cards, because it would negate them. I know how that card works, because I've used it before so I don't need an explanation about it. It is probably one of the better dragon cards you can find despite the fact it is a double-edged sword when you summon it. Already know what effects it can't negate. Jinzo a a prime example of what it CANNOT negate since Jinzo's anti-trap effect is continuous. As I said, I do not need an explanation on how that card works. I've used it before. Treeborn Frog is another example of what it cannot negate. Skill Drain is one way to defeat its effect before someone special summons it to the field. [/quote] Alright, just saying that LADD doesn't actually stop the usage of Shine Counters. But hey, if you know how the card works, more power to you. [quote=@Scarifar] Uh, I'm at least 95% certain Light and Darkness [i]can[/i] negate Treeborn Frog. Reading up the wiki ruling right now. [/quote] EDIT: Oh, missed that. Yeah, he's right. EDIT 2: To clear this up further, LADD does negate Treeborn Frog. However, because Treeborn does not have a Once Per Turn clause, Treeborn can continually activate, forcing LADD to negate it each time until it can't anymore because its ATK/DEF is too low, at which point Treeborn once again hits the field.