[quote=@Rhymer] Ah well. Ok. I was picturing my Arthropods as a non-sentient stowaway creature on the OO's ships-they crash, my race's destiny is altered considerably. In regards to Oqer/Arthropod relations I was thinking they would have common ground in being decidedly non-human. Potential conquerors of the weakling humans. Perhaps there are factions of Oqer with some combination of (3) and (1)? Whichever, my Scaablin have no recollection of the Old Ones, wouldn't even know they existed outside of the various ruins around Azoth. It's simply been too long since those events. They exist in a vague-mythic history that scholars still debate today. [/quote] There could be something involving the breeding vats that gave birth to the Oqer which gave sentience to the Scaablins. Not really sure where that would go but its an idea. I'm not sure how well a combination of 3 and 1 would go tho.