[quote=@harinezumikouken] [@Lucius Cypher] [hider]You don't understand, Shiro isn't about smearing people's names and letting people get hurt. You'd have to seriously manipulate him into thinking twisted before that happens. He's more along the lines of "You suck! So-and-so is leader now!"[/hider] [/quote] [hider]I know, which is why he and Gren are going to need to chat at some point after the mission in order to explain this possible plan to him. Hopefully after Gren and Shiro get to know each other more and after Gren feeds Shiro's own dislike of Sapphire. I'll admit, the bigger trick is getting Shiro to agree to it. Shiro is too nice to do something so ruthless, so maybe I'll have Gren teach Shiro how to... Use his anger intelligently. And have Shiro trust Gren enough to let Gren be hurt for the both of them. Maybe have Gren plant the idea of this into Shiro's head, and all Gren needs to do is give Shiro the push and opportunity to do it. This is, of course, only if you're willing to have Shiro go down such a dark path, or assuming Gren or Shiro's current opinions about Sapphire never changes by the time something like that could happen. Remember, this is just Plan B. Plan A is much more peaceful and doesn't involve anyone fighting each other.[/hider]