You're judging a guy who's made a few posts and has expressed dislike for the way this has been going, just because he has his sheet on a website that (admittedly) is normally for things other than legitimate roleplay characters? Then, you proceed to call him a loser? I think that's a bit uncalled for. More importantly, I think the reason they're most upset about this is that you were the one to suggest Seed and bring him to the table, only to yank him away because you literally said that they (I assume they includes me, although I kinda jumped in here late) weren't worthy. To be honest, I really feel like this whole thing got off on the wrong foot and then just kept running until it became an absolute trainwreck. I jumped in because Gun told me about the fight, told me it was okay to come in--The status did literally say 'Jump-In'--And so I decided to have a little bit of fun with one of my guys, with Desperado, who consists of friends of mine. But if you want the opinion of an outsider, I think that this should just be scrapped because it isn't gonna get any better. EDIT: [@Seed] Sorry, didn't see your previous post cuz there's a lot of posting. I knew that the clan thing was shut down, but I figured that the war still meant people could come in (see above)