aaaaaah, drama. I'll be posting a CS in a few. Not the finished product, since I'm going to do an in-depth writing sample, but something so that I can be considered in the meantime. One point in regards to the "spartan" debate. Well, 2 points, from my perspective as an experienced roleplayer. I know this is my first post in the thread, but if I'm going to participate in this roleplay at all, than I want to have this out there. 1) If something causes so much controversy that it's generating posts by the minute, it's a bad idea. That simple. The concept might be sound, but if people have a giant slew of problems with what you're trying to do with said concept on half a dozen different levels, it is not good for the roleplay. Take a hint that people have a problem with what you're trying to do, accept that you might not be able to do exactly that in the roleplay (or, if you've offended someone, apologize to them personally), and [b]move. The f***. On.[/b] 2) going back and forth in the OOC, one person saying "that isn't right" followed by the other person saying "but it is for this that and this" followed by the other person saying "that isn't right" is not the correct way to approach [i]anything.[/i] Crap like that is why I prefer to GM my own roleplays in the first place (although, that in itself is an entirely different discussion) - so I can tell someone to "get out" if they try to tell me how they're going to do it when they have't fully explained it to themselves yet. Explain it as clearly and concisely as you can on a SINGLE occasion, one post. If that presents problems, take it up with the GM in private messages until you can work out the kinks. It doesn't matter how nice it is, if it's so much of an issue that it's clogging up the OOC thread, it should be avoided entirely to begin with. My CS is incoming. Give me another 45 minutes to finish it, format it, post it.