[quote=@Eklispe] Yeah but if it counters every deck is it really a counter? Isn't it just, you know better? Like a does a monster with 5000 ATK counter obelisk or does it beat it? [@vancexentan] The only real things you listed was "lead sticks" and specific counter cards. :< I concede that knowing what deck your opponent is using is of some help but eh. Each to their own. [/quote] Tell me how you special summon oblisk if the archetype CAN NEGATE TRIBUTING, Chains in general, Monster Effects (where is your oblisk now) Spell effects Trap effects, All the monsters negate extra deck usage. The traps reduce attack and def while the spells all buff attack and defense so standard beatstick strats are out the bloody window ANd through all this The archetypes spell and traps just continously reload your pendulum zones/hand. Its a broken archetype and needs nerfing. -_- its not fun to fight bro. Its not fun.