He is, he trys to not to be violent unless he has to be. But not to the extreme that Cole is. He is only really violent when he has to be or is pissed. I can see Logan having told Zach once when he was drunk. But it was safe because Zach didn't know anyone in the group. [s]Zach will give her an odd look. "It depends, what are we trying to string together"[/s] Zach: I don't think broken bottles are a good idea. If you miss you could really hurt someone else. I think we can find a lot of things that out do the stapler. Haha.