[quote=@DarkwolfX37] You're arguing from a binary position. To counterpoint, the subjective evil position is that everyone believes what they are doing is good, with VERY few exceptions, and that leads to what others or even the same person considers evil. For example, killing in the name of a deity. Obviously they believe they're doing good, even if they find killing to be evil, and others view it as evil, so the opposing goods conflict. [/quote] I believe you're actually agreeing with what I'm saying. What I'm trying to say at least. Order is what everyone works toward, but the means by which it is achieved or by which people try to achieve it lead to more chaos which contradicts their intentions.