[@AoStar] number 1 I'm glad you brought this up, women's looks are in heavy consideration more so than males, when it comes to status at least. Ugly fat balding men can still have the 'look' of a powerful CEO but the female equivilent cannot. I agree with you.... But that's not the topic of this thread, I'm talking about dating and dating only. Women get more attention than men, that's just reality. Moderately Unattractive women get approached all the time. Moderately Unattractive men do not. There are always more dating options for a woman. 2: This whole paragraph isn't incorrect but please refer to my 3. in my original post about [b]Subjective Preferences.[/b] It applies to men too. 3: No its not a fetish, men dont go for chubby or plain or doughy looking women because they have wet dreams about them, they approach them because they are less picky and are more willing to overlook physical imperfections than a woman is. Why? because a woman doesnt HAVE to accept the male equvilent, because she is going to get a better offer at some point. Fat ugly girls can go on tinder and sleep with men way out of their league, men cant do the same thing. Ugly men would be lucky to sleep with anyone. And also to direct you to my first point in my original post, being 'confident' doesn't really do anything if the woman has a type and you arent it. And if youre ugly then theres a good chance you arent her type. Just to re-iterate I do all this for a living, I'm a dating events host and matchmaker in real life. Women are generally more picky and shallow than men. Women care about height, men don't. Women care about race, men do as well but NEARLY as much. Women care about earnings. Men don't. The list goes on.