[quote=@ShidenBlades] [@Fallenreaper] Neither. He's holding it in his fist, thumb slightly overlapping his other fingers. [/quote] That's a new one for me, though I've heard of it before but never seen it applied. [H3]Add on[/H3] So he's basically using a punching movement at her bicep, around the same time the swing is in the process of connecting, before it connects, or after? I'm honestly not trying to be a pain, but I want to get this image right so we prevent fighting later down the road and hauling in a Tourney Judge when it would be so much easier to clear this up first.