[quote=@Eviledd1984] Okay and so i don't fuck up the post,What should they talk about. [/quote] I'm not entirely sure, but I can't imagine that the orc shaman will be particularly friendly. Although, he may not immediately recognise you as an enemy either. If you want my opinion, it probably depends on what you want to get out of it. You could try to assassinate him, which would need stealth and stuff, but is rather direct and straightforward. Or you could attempt to negotiate safe passage for the Horde, in which case you will need to convince them that Torrens is not a member of your Horde (sorry about that) (you could go out and beat him in combat, drive him away. Torrens should clue in to that plan). Of course, whether they would grant you safe passage even if Torrens wasn't attacking I don't know. The diplomatic route has its risks, and reveals the presence of our army if they didn't already know. Cyclone may have better hints than my wild conjecture. Whether he gives them to you is another matter.